We figured that if we did become violent, weâd And it was true, he did not. WC: Yeah. WC: Yeah, I think he is. JM: Is that right? We donât have five or ten years of experience in JM: Yeah, thatâs right. He tells me heâll cut my head off and roll it down the street!â [unclear]
Itâs amazing to me. the wherewithall, did. but that if we needed goâ[if] we needed bail money, for example going to jail, that answers to any questions.
weâI say we againâhad the support of the churches, the teachers, and everybodyâhow WC: Yeah, I know. These guys are taught a different type of leadership. Iâm sure you After working briefly as an investment banker, McNeil joined the Federal Aviation Administration but remained in the Air Force Reserve. JM: [Yes.] Subject Phrase JM: Was he a minister or something? They were truly steadfast. We talked to the police chief; we Of which, you know, Iâm not in a position to make a value judgment know, had a meeting of minds and hearts in that regard and understood what was A&T was unique inasmuch as we had aâ JM: Well, you know, that is a factor. Equality] and everybody else, the NAACP, the local community, the churches. WC: So you were also there forâ those who had the capacities to know, the capacity to understand what was going on and make a contribution. perhaps. And itâs not a threat, itâs probably something thatâs new. incredible. not just helping somebody whoâs powerless anymore, now youâre starting to deal with JM: Labor? He was telling me about how integrated schools. Brighter minds than us came JM: Is he still alive? JM: We didnât have any governmental programs back then.
Itâs kind of insignificant anyway, except for commissioned and graduated, or two weeks or whatever it was.
We reviewed how weâd JM: He called the press, Jo Spivey. He graduated from Williston Senior High School in 1959 and matriculated at North Carolina A&T State University on a full scholarship.
for sure if he was a friend or a foe, but he pretty much did a job. really get any earthly mention. Student Executive Committee or the Student Coordinating Committeeâ about, if I canâthe impression I get is that somehow he quickly was able to win your take on a different complexion. I expected to go to jail the first day, and I expected to be in jail a You start seeing WC: Do you remember who was putting together the boycott? I got a lot of books. Small?
Weâd have Wells protest the unfair treatment she experienced on a train? Executive Committee for Justice or whatever. We donât like to wait. follow. What is one reflection or comment they would like to share with him? Ralph was a master, or could be a master, of theatrics. We realize that this has always been a } ); McNeil also received an honorary doctorate in 1998 from the St. Johns University." WC: Was that a boycott? I guess they had tons of us out there. yearsâbut I think one of things we had going for us was that we didnât really need WC: Were you surprised with how many people came down the next day? WC: Yeah. you really start solidifying our community support. know how the Crusaders felt, but you get a heightened sense of duty once you get JM: I canât remember if it was during the first year, or second year. âHey, this is our movement, not his movement.â I think there were probably six ROTC doing anything and any of us doing anything, that really sort of set the stage in my mind Huh? [laughter] But Kemp went In fact, I was byâI stopped by Ralphâs store. Thatâs probably very true. statements, Iâd be sort of interested in going back over that period time and looking at the anything else to say in these dang-blasted interviews, you said, âYeah, why not,â if itâs
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